How To Repair Tracker Boat With 2 Inch Hole
efdog
Lilliputian Officeholder 2nd Class
- #1
My new to me 04 Tracker pro guide v16 has hit more than a few rocks in information technology'south eight year life, and I bought this thing knowing that it has some hull damage, but what I discovered when I took off the previous owners crappy patch piece of work are some serious cracks. I've also discovered some modest cracks that line upwards with the stringers that I didn't see when I bought the boat final calendar week. It could be from my long trailer ride in sub freezing temps? Maybe from me walking on the stringers during my deck gear up? In all I would say I accept six or 7 cracks in this hull that are anywhere from ane inch long to 4 inches long. There are also a couple that spider.
I've done a lot of reading through the diverse forums, and am really hoping that this hull tin be salvaged...at least patched with something?
Hither's horrible scissure #ane
...and nasty scissure / slash #2
...then I've got a few of these
I deceit go to most of the cracks from inside the boat...well I shouldn't say deceit, but information technology would require cutting out a plate that'south welded in the heart of the hull covering the cream.
Tin this be patched from the outside and still be a safe boat that floats?
Bob_VT
Moderator & Unofficial iBoats Historian
- #two
Re: Tracker hull impairment. Lots of information technology!!
Welding is the best option and you lot are going to demand to remove the foam.
You have far too much damage to try to patch and even if you exercise patch it with aluminum and rivets you need to seal it from the within likewise.
You have some work ahead and need to pull decking and foam.
DougyB
Petty Officer 2nd Course
- #3
Re: Tracker hull damage. Lots of it!!
Is information technology likewise late to inquire him to buy his boat back? Thats a scrap rude to dump that on someone else.
- #4
Re: Tracker hull damage. Lots of it!!
no demand to pull anything apart... that is SUPER easy to patch as long every bit y'all don't heed the patches being visible.... I have stock-still FAR worse. Y'all Need to find the end of EVERY crack and drill a hole at each finish to kill the cracks and then that they don't grow... side by side get 100 or and so closed stop pop rivets (fastenal or elsewhere) and some aluminum canvas. Cutting your patches to cover all of the cracks. Next drill a couple of pilot holes through each patch and the hull. Rivets tin exist inserted to hold the patch stationary while drilling another hole. Remove and coat the patch and CLEAN hull with 5200. Supercede and rivet in place. drill and rivet nearly every i/4" effectually the perimeter of the patch. The finished repair will be as strong every bit or stronger than the rest of the hull.
- #5
Re: Tracker hull impairment. Lots of it!!
Great example of 2 dissimilar tactics huh?
efdog
Petty Officer 2nd Class
- #6
Re: Tracker hull damage. Lots of it!!
A bit naive on my part actually. I made a quick buying decision while visiting relatives
efdog
Footling Officeholder second Class
- #7
Re: Tracker hull damage. Lots of it!!
Cheers for the responses!!...Manifestly if this CAN be repaired without cut through this welded floor panel (as seen in this pic), then that's the option I would want to take.
Fume, what thickness aluminum plate would you use? What take hold of range rivets? When you say "rivets inserted to hold, then remove" Are you inserting some rivets, and so drilling them out? In this instance wouldn't information technology exist easier to use some screws to hold the plate in place?
If a steel brush is not to be used to make clean the hull, then what do you all use?
Bob, bold I'm able to get the plate off...and some of the small cracks are actually accessible from the inside , what would you utilize to seal from the within. JB weld? Gulvit? I picked up some of this starbrite putty http://www.iboats.com/Star-Brite-Emergency-Repair-Epoxy-Aluminum-Putty-Stick/dm/view_id.39999 , simply I cant find any reviews on information technology anywhere. The guy at Hamilton Marine where I purchased said people accept used information technology to set holes in hulls, but this came from the sales person...
Tin can those small cracks be drilled and patched with JB weld or something like, or am I talking well-nigh 6+ carve up full on patch jobs?
DougyB
Petty Officer second Class
- #8
Re: Tracker hull harm. Lots of it!!
if you lot do employ closed finish rivets just make sure they are an aluminum/aluminum insert rivet, wont corrode
- #xi
Re: Tracker hull damage. Lots of it!!
if y'all aren't going to weld, and then a steel brush will be fine.... epoxy is stronger than 5200 but the strength is in the rivets and the patch... the 5200 is flexible and will not e'er leak is applied to make clean metal. I would not employ a raw steel mandrel.... aluminum or stainless merely.
as for grip range, depends on the full thickness of your hull and patch. If yous take to got through a stringer it will need to be thicker..
on temporary holding, my point was to drill one hole, and slip in a rivet without using the rivet gun and and then drill a 2d hole.... this just gives yous two points to line up the patch quickly. Then after applying the 5200 you can 'pop' them and start drilling/riveting all around.
The last repair I did this way was a 20' canoe belonging to a friend that had been most ripped in half in a storm and and so later on trampled by horses.... I spent ii days working it with hammers and patching it together..... It never was pretty only it concluded up VERY strong, and didn't leak a drop.
- #13
Re: Tracker hull damage. Lots of it!!
Besides, keep in heed that this is not really a structural repair, if you simply killed the cracks with drilled holes and slathered it with 5200, information technology would likely be fine for decades. The aluminum plating repair will exist nearly bombproof.
efdog
Lilliputian Officer 2nd Class
- #fourteen
Re: Tracker hull damage. Lots of it!!
Yep, dorsum to "metals plus". Oddly enough, I don't heed doing this kind of thing as long as I'thousand non wasting my time, or anybody else on this site's fourth dimension for that matter, and I really appreciate the assist I get here.
Should I prep the surface with anything beginning, or only make clean it up with some water and vinegar? Is at that place any point to putting some epoxy putty, or jb weld into the cracks prior to patching?
Unfortunately I wont be able to get started on this project until Friday, equally I'll be away for work for the next three days. I think I'll starting time by locating all the cracks and drill the ends to end the haemorrhage. Any particular size drill bit?
Jig, when you lot mention the steel mandrel rivets, accept you had any corrosion issues using steel side by side to aluminum?
How much larger should my aluminum patches exist versus the damaged surface area that I'm covering?
Sorry for all my questions, as I'm certain they've been covered in previous threads.
efdog
Lilliputian Officer 2nd Class
- #16
Re: Tracker hull impairment. Lots of it!!
Got it...
Now I only have to decide whether to go with 5200 or the epoxy...
If the epoxy has no flex, then would it not crack if pounded on? I've worked with 5200 lots. Nasty stuff, and information technology certainly bonds to anything information technology comes in contact with.
She wont exist a pretty boat when I'm done...below the waterline...simply I'll be happy if it's sealed upwards proficient and doesn't take in h2o.
efdog
Petty Officer second Class
- #nineteen
Re: Tracker hull impairment. Lots of it!!
After looking at your pic's it appears that all the damage was impact damage and there was some extrusion on all but the last i. The prior owner got in there and beat it back out pretty well. It'southward hard to really tell from the pic's. I'd really like to see you get that welded up every bit a permanent fix. Tracker used 5000 and 6000 series Aluminum in these boats and it welds very nicely. The only business organisation I'd take is if the prior owner put heat on it to get it back into shape. That's O.K. to practise every bit long as yous watch the temps and don't cold temper it. I don't think he did because there seems to be some overlap from the extrusion caused by the impact. If he'd heated it up it would have shrunk near of that out. That's only what aluminum does.
The patching method is o.k. and might outlast you but you simply never know. It'south one of those things where information technology's not if it volition fail only when.
Yes, it'south all impact harm, and it appears that rut has been practical to sure areas of the hull from as y'all can run across in this pic here, although this is not where any of the current impairment is.
The lesser of the hull is a field of gently rolling hills...I cant fifty-fifty imagine what kind of damage would have been washed to a glass gunkhole!
Stumped now. I don't accept time to do a project that is destined to fail, however, unless I do a really half assed job, I meet no reason why it would fail...in the nearly future anyway.
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